The teaching that the Ten Commandments is flawed, inefficient and insufficient leads to many inconsistencies and disagreement with the fundamental teachings of the Bible.
Do you think a perfect God will create a defective moral law, a law that reveals His character and serves as His standard of morality?
Our critics argument here directly violates one of the fundamental doctrines of Christianity, that God is Omniscient (All-Knowing). God knows everything, and that includes the future, that is why He is able to create a law that serves as a standard for all humanity in all ages. After all, God’s standard of morality should never change even if its subjects changed their perception or relationship with God.
Sad to say, our critics who claim to be true Christians are not aware of their perfectly unsound and blasphemous doctrine.
To say that God’s law is flawed and insufficient is the same as saying that God’s way of thinking and planning is not perfect at all. It indirectly says that God is not all-knowing and lacks mastery in planning. As a professed Christian, will you agree with that?
My appeal to our critics and their fanatic members is this: after you laid out your reasoning and doctrines, please look over at it again. This time study it in wide perspective and see if it violates the fundamental doctrines of the Bible (or even your own teachings). You are saying that God is all-knowing, but then on the other hand you are saying that God made a law that will be defective someday??! C’mon!
Others argued that God gave different laws for different people in different ages or times. They said that God gave different set of laws for the generation of Adam and Eve, another law in the time of Noah, and another law for the Christians, etc. The Ten Commandments were the laws given for the Jews and only during their time is what they claimed.
True enough, God gave specific laws to individuals or groups of people in different times for a particular purpose. But what do we think is the purpose of the Ten Commandments of God? Is it to make wise the Jews alone?
What we are talking here is the set of laws for His standard of morality, a law that transcends all ages of humanity; and that’s what we can see in the Ten Commandments. In letter and principle, it contains the summary of God’s character. The first four commandments is showing respect and love for God, the rest are respect and love for other creatures. So God’s Moral Law is actually summarized into two: love for God and love for others; which again can be concluded in one word: LOVE. (Matthew 22:36-40)
If God’s Moral Law is all about love why give it exclusively only for the Jews? If “the law is good” (1 Tim 1:8) why give it only for the Jews? You see, our critics reasoning that God’s Moral Law is only for the Jews doesn’t really makes sense. Indirectly, they are telling us that God is a racist God and only cares for the Jews; and that is not fair.
Others reasoned out that in the Old Testament people can look at women with lustful intent and yet will not sin since it was only during Jesus time that this “looking at woman with lustful intent” was mentioned by Christ as a sinful act.
And they go further by saying that “dishonoring grandparents, great grandparents, or granddaughters” are not yet considered a sin in the Old Testament since it was only the “father and mother” that was mentioned in the fifth commandment. (Please read the Right Attitude to God’s Law)
This really sounds too narrowly-minded. But honestly this teaching exists! They really use that reasoning just to prove that “there really a change in God’s Law”.
Again, this teaching makes our God a foolish god. Or should I say their perception to their god is a weak, foolish, and silly god. Maybe it will not be a problem if those who are saying this are not Christians. But their claim is the contrary! They even boasting that they are the true Church of God..and yet unknowingly (or maybe intentionally) they’re making their god an object of Satan’s laughter!
Their teaching leads to direct assault of God’s character. It tells that God’s standard of character or morality can be pulled-pushed or swayed in different times, which suggests that God does not have the power to stand in His own words, that God’s law can be changed depending on the people’s feedback or acceptance of it.
Our critics teaching is very much consistent with what Satan wants us to believe: that God cannot be trusted since He easily change His words or standards.
But that’s not the case with our God. “I change not” declared by Him (Mal 3:6). What was considered as a sin in the Old Testament must still be a sin even in this modern generation, else God will be tagged as a double-standard God; after all we are all in the same humanity and from one family and one Source.
Pro 24:21-22 “My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change: for their calamity shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both?”
Our critics’ claim displays their total indifference with the godly people of God, both from Old and New Testament, when it comes to the attitude towards God’s law.
| OUR BIBLE | THE CRITICS |
| King David (Old Testament) “The Law of Jehovah is perfect, converting the soul..” Psalm 19:7 MKJV | No, it’s limited. Aren’t you aware that it’s only TEN?! |
| Apostle James (New Testament) “But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.” James 1:25 KJV | No way! The law is actually a cursed! I’d rather believe the Pharisees who made the law a burden. |
| King David again “I have seen a limit to all perfection, but your commandment is exceedingly broad. Oh how I love your law! It is my meditation all the day.” Psalms 119:96-97 KJV | Oh how I hate your law! We’re proud to be lawbreakers! |
| Jesus said “Think not that I come to destroy the law..” Matthew 5:17 KJV | No, you abolished it actually! |
The old covenant in Hebrew 8:7 is not the Ten Commandments, rather it is the agreement between God and Israel which happened after the Israel were led out of Egypt, and is recorded in Exodus 19. An agreement needs at least two parties involved.
The people, and not the Ten Commandments, came short to their promise that is why the old agreement or covenant was found to be faulty.
Although chapter 8 is enough, but our linking of Hebrews 8:7-onwards to Exodus 19 helped us understand more the right meaning of of the ‘covenant’ in Hebrew 8:7. This interpretation does not violate any fundamental teachings of the Bible, rather upholds God’s all-knowing attribute. God never change His standard.
Adopt our critics chaining of Hebrew 8:7 to Deuteronomy 4:13 and Exodus 34:27-28 and you will come up with big discrepancies to the already laid out fundamental truths from the Bible.
Praise God for His Truth!
“Hold your laughing, Satan. The truth will always stand out and will never set you free again!”
Bernard Comia says...
from Sudan
on March 8, 2010
AMEN, Magandang araw po Bro. Ronald sana po ay natatandaan nyo po ako im still here in Africa, minsan na po akong nagtanung sa inyo tungkol sa aral ng pagbabawal ng pagkain at pagaasawa. Very satisfying po ng mga paliwanag nyo saka, im trying to stand the way po ng stand nyo nawawala po ung conflect o misunderstanding ng mga talata sa Bible.
Brother Ronald gusto ko lang po iparating sa inyo at sa lahat ng bumubuo ng proramang ATSI na ipagpatuloy po ninyo pagtuturo ng Bible. Proud po ako sa inyong lahat madalas ko din pong binabanggit sa aking lola na SDA kong san ko po natutunan ung SDA Doctrine, basta po proud na proud po ako sa inyo at alam nyo po lagi kong inaabangan kong meron kaung mga bagong debates halos napanood ko na po lahat minsan wala na akong maetype sa youtube na mga keyword.
About po dito sa article nyo napaganda po ng mga paliwang nyo kong wala po kayo seguro maraming madadaya si Mr. Soriano. Dati po kasi im just thinking if “will GOD make mistakes?” patungkol po sa Ten Commandments as we all know our GOD is perfect diba nga po. Para napakalaking argumento kong magiging ganun ang paniniwala ko. Sya nga pala bago ko po makalimutan ng favorite website ko na po ang ATSI. God Bless po sa inyong lahat.
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deyb says...
from Philippines
on March 29, 2010
kung talagang 10 commandments lang susundin, meron b dun ang bautismo? meron b dun bawal mag sigarilyo? lalabas pwede k magsigarilyo, mag shabu, etc.. kc wala naman sa 10 commandments nun eh..malinaw nmn ung nasa
heb 8:7-8,13. Sapagka’t kung ang unang tipang yaon ay naging walang kakulangan, ay hindi na sana inihanap ng pangangailangan ang ikalawa.
Sapagka’t sa pagkakita ng kakulangan sa kanila, ay sinabi niya, Narito, dumarating ang mga araw, sinasabi ng Panginoon, Na ako’y gagawa ng isang bagong pakikipagtipan; sa sangbahayan ni Israel at sa sangbahayan ni Juda. Doon sa sinasabi niya, Isang bagong tipan, ay linuma niya ang una. Datapuwa’t ang nagiging luma at tumatanda ay malapit ng lumipas.
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judy says:
from United Arab Emirates
on May 15th, 2011
kaibigan ang pag sigarilyo pag gamit ng shabu ay di nasusulat sa ten commandments letra por letra, pero ang sabi doon wag kang magpatay, pag ikaw ay nag sigarilyo pinapatay mo ang iyong sarili paunti-unti di ba? kung babasahin mo ang matt,5:17,20 makikita mo doon na hindi kailan man mawawala ang kautusan….
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deyb says:
from Philippines
on July 13th, 2011
hehehe.. pag nkakapatay ng paunti unti bawal.. bawal pmunta sa Quiapo kasi sa sobra usok, unti unti kang mamamatay.. e san mo naman mababasa sa 10 utos ung bautismo?
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j2rbkk says:
from
on August 6th, 2011
kung nasa matinong kaisipan ka kaibigan eh alam mo nang ‘sobrang usok’ pala sa Quiapo ba’t ka pa pupunta? Tandaan mo na ang katawan mo ay templo ng Dios.
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deyb says:
from Philippines
on August 10th, 2011
labo ng sagot mo eh, wala nmn tau pagtatalo sa katawan ng Kristyano ay templo ng Dios, ung logic ng judy ang tinatanong ko,.. mali kasi ang basis nya.. sa mga Kristyano kasi bawala ang sigarilyo kasi “UTOS” ni Kristo un at nde dahil unti unti mong pnapatay ang katawan mo..
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j2rbkk says:
from Thailand
on October 9th, 2011
[wala nmn tau pagtatalo sa katawan ng Kristyano ay templo ng Dios]
aun naman pala kaibigan eh. Eh bakit ka pupunta sa mausok na lugar alam mong mapapahamak ka dun? Common sense diba?
[kasi “UTOS” ni Kristo un at nde dahil unti unti mong pnapatay ang katawan mo]
Parehas tama yan, mag-isip ka nga.
deyb says:
from Philippines
on August 10th, 2011
tandaan mo na ang mga apostol halos mamatay dahil sa pagpapagal sa evangelio ng Dios, kaya nga nasabi ni sn pablo na di nya minahal ang kanyang buhay na sa kanya ay mahalaga, maganap nya lang tungkulin nya.. lalabas mali pala ang pagpapagal ni san pablo kung ung logic ng judy na yan ang susundan mo
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j2rbkk says:
from Thailand
on October 9th, 2011
Hwag mong pagkontrahin ang mga aral sa lumang tipan at ang mga aral ng mga alagad. HINDI SILA kontrahan. Tandaan mo lahat ng nakasulat sa bagong tipan ay pawang pagdurugtong o pagpapaliwanag sa mga aklat at hula na nasa lumang tipan.
2Ti 3:16 “ALL scripture..” di sinabing mga aral lang ng apostol.
deyb says:
from Philippines
on July 13th, 2011
alam mo binago ang kautusan, malinaw naman ung nkasulat.. heb 7-8 (buong chapter basahin mo)
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j2rbkk says:
from
on August 6th, 2011
Malinaw po ang nakasulat sa Biblia pinalabo lang ni Soriano. Ayaw nya kasi ng EXEGETICAL Bible study kaya pati ung 10utos ay isinama nya sa binago daw. Bka po gusto nyong basahin muna ang pagdepensa ng ksamahan mo tungkol sa aral nyong yan.
http://angtinigsailang.org/forums/index.php?topic=606.0
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deyb says:
from Philippines
on July 25th, 2011
saka, basahin mo sa batas ni moises ang “IBIGIN MO ANG IYONG KAAWAY”.. para patunayan mo na kumpleto ang batas ni moises at applicable pa din un ngaung time ng mga Kristyano
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j2rbkk says:
from
on August 6th, 2011
Hindi po kasi sa letra LAMANG dapat tumitingin ang tao sa pag-unawa ng mga utos ng Dios.
Ang 10utos po ay hindi batas ni Moises, kundi eto ay batas ng Dios mismo.
Deu 4:13 “And He declared unto you HIS covenant,..even ten commandments…”
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deyb says:
from Philippines
on August 9th, 2011
sabi sa mal 4:4 – kautusan ni moises na iniutos ng Dios sa Horeb..ang sabi dyan “kautusan ni moises”-ano yan? 10 utos b yan?
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j2rbkk says:
from Thailand
on October 9th, 2011
“…sa makatuwid baga’y ang mga PALATUNTUNAN at mga KAHATULAN”.
Eh di hindi 10utos! Ang linaw ng nakasulat…palatuntunan at kahatulan!
Inihiwalay po ng Dios ang mga kautusan sa hatol at mga palatuntunan. Balikan mo 10utos, asan ang hatol SA LOOB ng 10utos?
alumalangjr says:
from Saudi Arabia
on September 24th, 2011
ka deyb ang tanong ko sayo ano ba ang reaction ng tao pag may kaaway sya? di ba napopoot sya at gusto nya saktan o gawan ng masama ang kaaway? kung dahil sa galit mo e napatay mo sya andun ba yung pagmamahal mo sa kaaway? kaya kung iniibig mo ang kaaway mo di mo sya gagawan ng masama o papatayin.
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deyb says:
from Philippines
on October 7th, 2011
kuya, mababaw ung alam mo,hindi naman sinabi na wag mo gawan ng masama ang kaaway mo eh, ang sabi ibigin mo ang kaaway mo, iba ung hindi mo sya gagwan ng masama kesa iibigin mo sya. pwede kang wag gumawa ng kahit ano sa kaaway mo para masabi
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deyb says:
from Philippines
on October 7th, 2011
na di mo sya gnagawan ng masama, ang utos iibigin mo sya, kung magutom, pakakainin mo,at kung mauhaw, paiinumin mo.. kung magutom ang kaaway mo at alam mo at di ka gumawa ng paraan lalo na kung nasa kapangyarihan ng kamay mo na gumawa, magkakasala ka sa batas ni Kristo.hindi ganun sa batas ni moises
j2rbkk says:
from Thailand
on October 9th, 2011
Ni hindi mo nga kilala kausap mo eh nakapaghusga ka agad na “mababaw ang alam” ng kausap mo?
Kung malalim pala unawa mo kabayang Deyb ay bakit hanggng ngayon TAKOT na TAKOT kang pumasok sa Forum at dun tayo mag one-on-one??
http://angtinigsailang.org/forums/index.php?board=6.0
j2rbkk says:
from Thailand
on October 9th, 2011
[iba ung hindi mo sya gagwan ng masama kesa iibigin mo sya]
Hehe..litong-lito ka na sa sinasabi mo Deyb.
[..magkakasala ka sa batas ni Kristo.hindi ganun sa batas ni moises..]
Kung may mabasa ako sa OT ay kasalanan rin ang pagwalang bahala sa nangangailangan..di ka na matatakot sa Forum?
deyb says...
from Philippines
on March 29, 2010
to bernard: magsuri ka, sabi sa
“I juan 4:1 – subukin mo ang bawat espiritu”
ang 10 commandments hanggang ke juan baustista lang, sinabi yan sa luc 16:16
ang mga kristyano nde na nangingilin ng sabado gaya ng gnawa nyo ngaun, ang sabbath ng kristyano ay si Kristo, sya kapahingahan natin..kaya nga si kristo nde nangilin ng sabbath, ang katunayan, walang utos ang mga apostol na mangilin ng sabbath
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judy says:
from United Arab Emirates
on May 15th, 2011
tama ka dyan wala ngang mababasa na utos na mangilin ng sabbath sa mga apostol noon, bakit? sabbath na kasi ang kanilang araw ng pagsamba kaya di na dapat iutosan pa sa mga lingkod ng Diyos noon at hanggang ngayun pag ikaw ay magpunta sa israel sabbath pa rin ang kanilang araw ng pangilin…
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sdaamican says:
from Philippines
on June 6th, 2011
Kapatid na deyb, sa Greek ang kautusan-law na binabangit dyan sa Lukas 16:16 ay hindi 10 utos. “nomos” ang ginamit sa Greek at pag sinabing nomos ay general ang tinutukoy dyan hindi specific ang 10 commandments, kaya tama lang sa new living translation na ang ginamit ay AKLAT NG KAUTUSAN.
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deyb says:
from Philippines
on July 25th, 2011
ibig pala sabihin ung nasa luc 16:16 ay general term, sabi mo nga ay aklat ng kautusan.. kung susundan ko ang logic mo, ung sinabi dun sa luc na hanggang ke Juan ung kautusan, pwede lumapat dun ung 10 utos kasi general term un eh..
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j2rbkk says:
from
on August 6th, 2011
Although general term po yan pero HINDI pa rin pwedeng lumapat sa 10comm specifically ng dahil po sa CONTEXT ng talata.
Kung tama ang pang-unawa mo sa talata eh lalabas wala na dapat propeta pagtapos ni Juan! Pero di ganun un. Marami pang propetang kinilala ng Biblia pagkatapos ni Juan.
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worldnats says:
from Saudi Arabia
on October 14th, 2011
“Maraming pang propetang kinilala ng BIBLIA pagkatapos ni Juan”. – sino-sino ang mga iyon? Kung SDA ka maliwanag na si Ellen ang tinutukoy mo, dahil sabi mo ‘marami’ sino pa yung iba? Kinikilala mo ba ang mga ito ng propeta rin o si Ellen lang?
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j2rbkk says:
from Thailand
on November 26th, 2011
Pakibasa kabayan ang Acts 13:1 sa biblia nyo mismo na mga Saksi ni Jehovah
http://www.watchtower.org/e/bible/ac/chapter_013.htm
“Now in Antioch there were PROPHETS and teachers IN THE local congregation, Bar´na·bas as well as Sym´e·on who was called Ni´ger, and Lucius of Cy·re´ne…”
j2rbkk says...
from Thailand
on March 29, 2010
[..kung talagang 10 commandments lang susundin,..]
Wala po yan sa sinabi ko..at wala kaming aral na ganyan. STRAW-MAN FALLACY tawag jan. Gumagawa kau ng sarili nyong “aral daw nmin” tpos ung ginawa nyo ang aatakihin nyo. Kakatuwa.
Luk 16:16 “Ang kautusan at ang mga propeta ay nanatili hanggang kay Juan…”
Wala naman pong 10utos sa talata eh. Bagkus OUT OF CONTEXT na naman ang paggamit ng talata. Kung susundan ang argument eh di sana AFTER ni Juan wala ng kinonsider na propeta..pero bakit sa..
Act 13:1 “Sa iglesia nga na nasa Antioquia ay may mga PROPETA at mga guro…”
Kaya malinaw na MALING paggamit ng talata..OUT OF CONTEXT. Mahilig si soriano sa ganyan.
Pkigawan po ng topic sa Forum ung 2ngkol sa sabbath..sigurado may matutunan po kau.
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deyb says:
from Philippines
on April 5th, 2010
granting hindi 10 commandments sinusunod nyo, anong batas sinusunod nyo? yung pag observe ng sabbath (saturday) ginagawa nyo pa b?
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j2rbkk says:
from Thailand
on April 5th, 2010
[granting hindi 10 commandments sinusunod nyo..]
Mali na naman kabayan. FYI, LAHAT po ng utos ng Dios para sa Kanyang iglesia ang sinusunod ng SDA..ksama ang 10utos at hindi lamang 10utos.
Open na po kau ng topic sa Forum tungkol sa sabbath. Ang pangingilin po ng 7th-day sabbath ay nagpapatuloy sa bayan ng Dios. Anuman pong puna nyo tungkol jn ay ssagutin natin sa Forum po.
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deyb says:
from Philippines
on April 5th, 2010
ikaw pala me gusto ng letra por letra eh.. kung wala sa talata ung 10 commandments, ano ung kautusan na sinabi dun? paki paliwanag mo nga kung hindi 10 commandments ung andun, anong kautusan ang hanggang ke juan lang?
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j2rbkk says:
from Thailand
on April 5th, 2010
[anong kautusan ang hanggang ke juan lang?]
Una buti nmn po at naunawaan nyong MALI ang paggamit nyo ng talata.
2nd, ang mga katagang “kautusan at mga propeta” ay understood ng mga mag-aaral ng Biblia na tumutukoy yan sa Old Testament.
Karamihan po ng mga propesiya at kautusan ukol sa templo na mga writings sa Old Testament ay tumuturo kay Jesus bilang Tupa na iaalay once and for all. With that eh siguro maiintindihan na po natin kung bakit sinabi na “Ang kautusan at ang mga propeta ay nanatili hanggang kay Juan”.
Kung meron pa po kaung susug jan ay pkilagay nlang po sa Forum. After all, out of topic po kasi.
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sdaamican says:
from Philippines
on June 6th, 2011
Kaya nga ang salin sa ibang transation ay AKLAT NG KAUTUSAN. Nakakaawa ang mga taong ito. Sana naman ay pag aralan nila ang bawat talatang ginagamit ng kanilang mga pastor.
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j2rbkk says...
from Thailand
on October 9, 2011
Kabayang Deyb, NAPAKATAGAL na kitang hinihintay sa Forum at dun tayo mag one-on-one.
Bakit hanggang ngayon ay wala ka pa dun? Ano kinatatakot mo kabayan?
Eto link http://angtinigsailang.org/forums/index.php?board=6.0
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j2rbkk says:
from Thailand
on October 9th, 2011
Ngayon ay Oct 09 2011, kapag dito ka pa rin nagpost at hindi sa Forum na kung saan pwede tayong mag one-on-one eh ibig sabihin nyan duwag ka rin tulad ni Soriano.
Eto link http://angtinigsailang.org/forums/index.php?board=6.0
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