Eli Soriano claimed to be the Bible Answer Man in the Philippines and received a reputation among his members that he is the most “Sensible preacher in our time”. I wonder HOW did he get this praise? In his recent article, “The Church that Awaits the Seventh-day”, he attempts to win his readers by his tricks and witty expression to show that the Seventh-day Adventist is wrong in their doctrines and teachings. In this article I will demonstrate to you why the methodology of Eli Soriano is absurd historically and Biblically and that he is not a sensible preacher.
RESPONSE
ERROR: Twisting History I wonder where did he get this weird interpretation that “Seventh-day Adventist” means “waiting for the arrival of the seventh-day”? I would like to place a challenge here for Eli Soriano and I hope he won’t ignore this:
Eli Soriano, Can you please show me from any of our authorized Adventist publications or statement of beliefs where we claim that “Seventh-day Adventist means we are waiting for the arrival of the Seventh-day?” If not then, you are committing a fallacy in argumentation called “Straw Man”.
What is a “Straw man” argument? Here is the definition according to Wikipedia.org:
I was once a critic of Seventh-day Adventist. I never use this kind of argument before because I know that I don’t have any historical and logical basis for this. I think Eli Soriano also would agree with me that if I misrepresent the teachings of Ang Dating Daan he will react the same way. Even critics of Adventist church both old and new never came to this absurd method and conclusion. Therefore, he did not successfully refute our original position as to what the Seventh-day Adventist name means. He failed to make a point here.
The truth as to the real meaning of our church name remains true and clear:
“The name Seventh-day Adventist includes vital beliefs for us as a Church. ‘Adventist’ reflects our passionate conviction in the nearness of the soon return (‘advent’) of Jesus. ‘Seventh-day’ refers to the Biblical Sabbath which from Creation has always been the seventh day of the week, or Saturday.” (Ref: http://www.adventist.org/world_church/name_mission/index.html.en) Seventh-day Adventists Believe…
This is our consistent stand since the beginning of the Seventh-day Adventist movement. I believe Eli Soriano didn’t know about the history of this name and its origin. For the sake of the readers who love the truth, I will give you a short background here and later you will see why Eli Soriano is wrong with his attempted definition. I would like to quote here the Seventh-day Adventist Encyclopedia that explains how we historically understood the term “Adventist”. If there is somebody who has the authority to explain a name that somebody must be the owner (or the one who gave the name).
(b) in Seventh-day Adventist usage, a short term for “Seventh-day Adventist”;
(c) in some dictionaries, any believer in “Adventism,” which they define loosely as the doctrine of the nearness of the Second Advent and the end of the world, or age.
The terms Adventist and Adventism were coined by the Millerites. Hence these terms are most correctly employed in the framework of Millerite eschatology, which included not only the teaching of the near, personal advent of Christ but also a distinctive body of doctrine concerning the events connected therewith. Understood in this way, Adventism was and is distinct from and should not be confused with other views of the Second Advent; the differences are discussed under Premillennialism. (The Seventh-day Adventist Encyclopedia. 2002. Review and Herald Publishing Association.)
Based on the above definition:
The true church was founded by God in Christ. (Hebrews 3:4) “For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.”
RESPONSE:
ERROR: Quoting out-of-context The problem with Soriano’s argument here is very obvious. He has to take the statement out of context so he could again make it sounds like the Adventist church was just a product of human effort. Again, this is a straw man. Our book in no way claimed that Seventh-day Adventist church is just a man-made religion. There are few things we need to know to understand the author’s intention when it said that Ellen White was “one of the founders of the Seventh-day Adventist Church”.
“The founders of the church developed fundamental beliefs through study of the Bible; they did not receive these doctrines through the visions of Ellen White. Her major role during the development of their doctrines was to guide in the understanding of the Bible and to confirm conclusions reached through Bible study.” (Seventh-day Adventist Believe p.227)
What did the early founders developed? A new set of doctrines? A new organization outside the Bible? A big NO! It has something to do with restoring the Bible teachings and develop it into fundamental beliefs. Remember, no new set of doctrines but rather the same Biblical doctrines buried under the false teachings. The paragraph is also clear on saying that the doctrines they receive do not originate in the visions of Ellen White.
Therefore, by restoring the Biblical truths, Ellen White along with the early Adventist pioneers was the”founders of the church”. Through the teachings of the Bible that they preach people where gathered to form a church (Gk. Ekklesia, “called out ones”). The Apostle Paul is clear about this in his letter to the Corinthian believers:
Paul believed that the real foundation is the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ nothing else. He is just confirming here what was already mentioned by Christ in Matthew 16:18 about the “Rock” where Jesus will build His Church. Bible scholar Albert Barnes comments on this:
The commentary agrees with the Bible in saying that the Church of our Lord Jesus is being build up by embracing the fundamental doctrines of the Bible otherwise “a church cannot exist”. In application, the early Adventist pioneers were formed as a church because they discovered the truth in the Bible and embraced it.
In the first century of our common era, how can a church founded by Ellen G. White be the true church when it was founded on a different date and setting?
RESPONSE:
The date 1860 has something to do with the “church name” not as organization as a whole. The problem is they covered the rest of the paragraph showing their intention to deceive the people by misquoting us. So in order to clarify my point I will give here the full quotation so you will see how deceiving Soriano is.
Obviously, Eli Soriano, the “sensible preacher” mixed up the date 1860 and 1863!
RESPONSE:
As we had discussed above, forming a church can be accomplished only by preaching the gospel. A woman like Ellen White has the authority to preach the gospel as a believer herself.
The Bible allows woman to preach:
“And any woman who prays or proclaims God’s message in public worship with nothing on her head disgraces her husband; there is no difference between her and a woman whose head has been shaved.” (1Co 11:5 GNB)
Another point here we need to address is the issue Eli Soriano keeps on repeating even after we already made it clear many times that we do not consider Ellen White as our core LEADER! She even never became a president of the General Conference of the Seventh-day Adventist church nor even ordained as pastor of the church. Adventist also made it clear that the acceptance of the ministry of Ellen White is not even a test of fellowship! You can become an Adventist even without knowing about Ellen White!
Here is a challenge to Eli Soriano. If you have the truth let me ask you this: Based on Acts 4:12, it says “no other name under heaven in which we can be saved”, now my question to you is,
If I will join your church but at the same I deny your authority as the leader would I be baptized as a Member of Church of God International? YES or NO!
If you answer NO then Acts 4:12 is wrong by saying there is only ONE NAME for our Salvation. If you answer is YES then I might consider you as a true messenger. I believed that once you include your name as a test of fellowship to your church it is the same as claiming that you are a cult, making yourself equal in authority with God and somehow have the spirit of the Antichrist!
pol mike says...
from Japan
on April 17, 2010
good day to all of you. Im a catholic but not active for quite a while, and i am not an Adventist too. But ive been watching debates, religious debates in the net of different religious groups. I have once watched a debate between the SDA and OSAS, (ANG TINIG SA ILANG # 3. vs. Marvin Bagabaldo and company), this is the exact title of the debate i’ve watched in youtube.
i would just like to comment on the statement of pastor salas, “THAT MEANS CUSTOMER FULLY SATISFIED
!”, “IN OTHER WORDS,THE DAMN BELIEVER IS ABSOLUTELY FULLY SAVED!”. Who is he calling damn? The BELIEVER of OSAS? Who is the believer of OSAS? Now who is damn? He talks like a lawyer but criticizes his own! GOD BLESS TO ALL! Remember to always keep it cool! Bro. Obidos is right! spread and share the word of God with love! GOD SPEED!
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